One of my readers asked me to pleae start this topic and sent me some of the questions on the Survey. I understand that this has already appeared on other sites, but he feels not enough discussion took place and he thought that might happen here. So here it is.
Have these issues been a problem in your area
1. More than two team personnel in the corner during tournament competition.
2 The number of forfeits in dual meets (including dual-meet tournaments) in the lower weight classes (103, 112).
3 The number of forfeits in dual meets (including dual-meet tournaments) in the higher weight classes (215, 285).
1. More than two team personnel in the corner during tournament competition.
2 The number of forfeits in dual meets (including dual-meet tournaments) in the lower weight classes (103, 112).
3 The number of forfeits in dual meets (including dual-meet tournaments) in the higher weight classes (215, 285).
4. A wrestler spinning his or her finger to request injury time when caught in a pinning situation.
5. A wrestler doing a back flip in the neutral position to get out of a single leg.
Would you be in favor of these rule changes
1. Adding to the definition of unnecessary roughness, a forceful slap to the head or face, and/or gouging or poking the eyes.
2. Removing the requirement that any wrestler disqualified because of flagrant misconduct not be entitled to any team points he or she has previously earned in the tournament.
3. Making the body scissors an illegal hold.
4. Adding “repeatedly creating a stalemate situation to prevent an opponent from scoring” to Rule 5-25-6 on Stalling.
5. Clarifying that hair in its natural state shall not extend below the eyebrows in the front of the face.
6. In dual-meet tournament competition, for each match won by default, disqualification, fall or forfeit, increasing the team points from six to seven.
7. In tournament competition, changing the five-match limit per day to a total time limit of 30 minutes of wrestling per day (excluding overtime), and eliminating the five-match-limit-per-day rule.
8. Removing the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the head coach if a wrestler reports to the scorer’s table not in proper uniform, not properly groomed, not properly equipped or not ready to wrestle and instead, making it a one-team point deduction for each occurrence.
9. Allowing a contestant to have documentation from a physician only indicating a specific condition such as a birthmark or other skin conditions such as psoriasis is not communicable and that documentation is valid for the duration of the season. Rationale: The burden of expense to the individual for weekly visits to the physician could prohibit that individual from competing.
10. Requiring a school representative be in the corner or proximity of the mat during a tournament match.
11. For dual meets and tournaments, allowing a second participant in pre-determined weight classes.
12. Making a three-point penalty whenever a wrestler spins his or her finger to indicate injury in a pinning situation.
13 Allowing the random draw for the beginning weight class for dual meets either immediately before the beginning of weigh-ins or immediately after the conclusion of weigh-ins.
1. Adding to the definition of unnecessary roughness, a forceful slap to the head or face, and/or gouging or poking the eyes.
2. Removing the requirement that any wrestler disqualified because of flagrant misconduct not be entitled to any team points he or she has previously earned in the tournament.
3. Making the body scissors an illegal hold.
4. Adding “repeatedly creating a stalemate situation to prevent an opponent from scoring” to Rule 5-25-6 on Stalling.
5. Clarifying that hair in its natural state shall not extend below the eyebrows in the front of the face.
6. In dual-meet tournament competition, for each match won by default, disqualification, fall or forfeit, increasing the team points from six to seven.
7. In tournament competition, changing the five-match limit per day to a total time limit of 30 minutes of wrestling per day (excluding overtime), and eliminating the five-match-limit-per-day rule.
8. Removing the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the head coach if a wrestler reports to the scorer’s table not in proper uniform, not properly groomed, not properly equipped or not ready to wrestle and instead, making it a one-team point deduction for each occurrence.
9. Allowing a contestant to have documentation from a physician only indicating a specific condition such as a birthmark or other skin conditions such as psoriasis is not communicable and that documentation is valid for the duration of the season. Rationale: The burden of expense to the individual for weekly visits to the physician could prohibit that individual from competing.
10. Requiring a school representative be in the corner or proximity of the mat during a tournament match.
11. For dual meets and tournaments, allowing a second participant in pre-determined weight classes.
12. Making a three-point penalty whenever a wrestler spins his or her finger to indicate injury in a pinning situation.
13 Allowing the random draw for the beginning weight class for dual meets either immediately before the beginning of weigh-ins or immediately after the conclusion of weigh-ins.
12 comments:
I would definately be against #3. There are a lot of pinning combinations used with a body scissors. When I wrestled in high school back in the 70s, the figure 4 on the body was legal. The idea was to squeeze the air out of your opponent, to encourage him to go to his back. Scissoring the head was also legal. I dont know what year those holds became illegal, I think between 76 and 86.
I still do not understand why they made the figure 4 on the head in the neutral position illegal. I always thought that was a good counter.
Anonymous,
They made the defensive figure four on the head illegal to increase scoring.
i got hit for points once because of scissoring the body. i remember being really confused because i was under the impression it was legal but the ref thought other wise. anonymous is right tho, there are a ton of great pinholds from that position. dont ban body scissors!
You can actually be penalized for scissoring the body. If in the official’s judgment you used the body scissor to attempt to hurt or cause pain to your opponent, then you can be penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct or even flagrant. It is not an easy call and is not often made but it is perfectly legitimate for the official to make that call if that is his judgment. A more appropriate call for squeezing to hard however would be potentially dangerous. It is also possible that you thought you were scissoring the body when you may in fact have had a figure 4 on the body.
A waste of time to ask about the back flip. Was it asked as a safety issue? I watched that video of the kid from Nebraska hitting it and then pinning his opponent. It was cool.
Ref,
I am an official also, and I would never penalize a wrestler for having a tight body scissors. All legal holds must be tight, or it wouldn't a hold. But there are limits to "tight". If his opponent couldn't breath, or if he is squeezing it tight around his opponent's ribs, I would stop it and call potentially dangerous.
It's good to know that there are other ref's reading this stuff. I did make mention that the proper call would likely be potentially dangerous, but that does not mean that a ref could not call unsportsmanlike. If for some reason you got the impression in your judgement that the wrestler using the scissors was doing it purposefully to injure his opponent the correct call would be unsportsmanlike or unncessary roughness and a 1 popint penalty would be awarded. To say that you would "NEVER" call it I think is a mistake.
Ref,
If a wrestler had a legal head and arm, and was squeezing it so tight that his opponent couldn't breath and his face turned blue, would you stop the match and call it illegal, or potentially dangerous? I would call it potentially dangerous. I cannot imagine a wrestler with a legal hold being called for unsportsmanlike conduct. (Unless he was taunting during the hold, which is something different than what we're talking about). In my 15 years of officiating, I have never called or have seen an official call UnSC against a wrestler having a legal hold.
Whats wrong with doing a beackflip out of a single?!?!?!
Venom,
I believe it is a safety issue.
Spiderman,
I see no problem. If you can do a backflip and think your so cool how bout you try one in a match?
Obviously if you can't do one don't try it for the first time in a match that's the only problem I see.
I can see a little kid seeing it on Youtube then in one of those youth tournaments trying one for the first time and breaking his neck.
I think we should just put a limit on it. That only certain age groups are allowed to do it.
I have a question? My son caught his opponent with a front head lock 10 sec. into the first period and was about to pin him. 10 sec. later the official topped the match because he said that the kids lips were turning blue. My son had an arm and did not have the hands locked under the chin. He was awarded 3 back points and the match was restarted with him in top position. His opponent was a mor experienced wrestler and came back to win the match by 2 points. Is that standard to stop the match when one wrestler i about to be pinned or did we get screwed by the call?
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