I will start a new poll on team and individual rankings, but it will only be open to registered voters. The reason I can only tabulate registered voters is so that voters may only cast one ballot. If I were to allow anonymous voters then the box could be stuffed and I won't have that.
Here is how it will work.
The voters compile a list of Teams from 1 to 10 with 1 obviously being the highest rank, the voters will then do the same for the individuals in their respective weight class but individuals will only be ranked 1 to 5. I will compile the rankings every Monday and post the consensus. The rankings will be featured on the right side of the blog as a permanent section week to week, the first edition will be out next Monday.
So get your list ready and start posting which teams and individuals you feel are tops in Dade County.
P.S. If you prefer to vote privatly for fear that someone might know your alias but do not wish to be excluded, you can send me your votes privately at the FKN private box under the name "iamspiderman" or you can email it to me at Spiderman_fkn_wrestling@yahoo.com.
51 comments:
1. South Dade
2. American
3. Columbus
4. Braddock
5. Southwest
6. Palmetto
7. Southridge
8. Miami High
2. American : I know that South Dade is the best team out there but I think American will keep it closer than what people think.
3. Columbus : They have their studs in the middle but I suspect that they are expecting way too much out of their young lightweights.
4. Braddock : They will rely heavily on their twins and Pineyro. They will score some points here and there in other weight classes and that will be just enough to keep others away from their 4th place.
5. Southwest : They will rely on their twins and Olivera. They will also score points here and there and might make it intersting with Braddock.
As far as I am concerned there are three different tournaments going on at the same time.
South Dade vs American
Columbus vs American
Braddock vs Southwest
call me crazy but I have been looking at the tournaments during the off season and American is better than what people think. They have solid wrestlers at every weight class. I don't think they will beat South Dade but they will make it interesting.
Spidey,
Gabe Chandler should be the one that is ranked at 119 not Eric.
103
1. Earl Hall (SD) no exceptions or probabilities. Done deal.
2. Kevin Guzman (MH) if he doesn’t drop down to 103 he will never have qualified to the state tournament.
3. James December (NMB) better than what people know.
4. Josh Turner (HML) he will beat Gulesian just because he is older and bigger.
112
1. Quintavian Mcpherson (SD) clearly the best at this weight. Too big and strong.
2. Armani Harris (AM) expect him here at the end of the season. Osorio has a tendency to drop all his kids at the end.
3. Matt Noffo (COL) he might just decide not to finish the season ala Olivera last year. No chance to win so why drop weight and suffer.
4. Francisco Betancourt (MH) nobody thinks he is there but look out for this one. A real shocker at the end.
119
1. Gabriel Chandler (BRA) this is his weight class and he will dominate.
2. Mathew Barrera (MS) this is his year to qualify and he knows it.
3. Juan Berrios (PAL) big strong kid and he will frustrate weaker kids in this weight.
4. Andres Montero (SD) or Julio Ore (AM). The winner goes to state.
125
1. Eric Chandler (BRA) back to his style of wrestling and back to dominating the competition. His coaches suffered the embarrassment of trying to change his style last year and paid for it.
2. George Gulisien (COL) the only one that can compete with Chandler and maybe even be stronger than him. Eric is just on a mission to regain HIS title.
3. Alvin Lazo (HOM) with him being the last kid there he should get extra coaching and will make it count.
4. Richard Martinez (SUN) Moises is a great coach and an even greater lightweights coach. He will make miracles here.
I will have more after I have done more research.
someones doint their homework.
There will be no shocker with Francisco Betancourt. He is a not wrestling for Miami High any longer. Do you think his coach will tell you he is not wrestling and then all of a sudden he is.
Is District 15 the toughest this year?
130
1. Jake Rio (COL) father Rio will finally get what he wants, a champion son out of Jake.
2. Robert Rojas (SD) state placer and a lifelong wrestler. Under Balmacida he will blossom even more.
3. Chris Perez (AM) strong kid who will make noise this year. Brother of American’s big gun last year.
4. Robert Ruiz (HML) a lot is expected of the HML kids this year. It is a senior team and maybe Turner’s last season.
135
1. Wilson Metellus (SD) once again the untouchable force in this weight. Everyone else is fighting for second place.
2. Oxsumm Ramirez (SW) he will make the effort to get down here because of what he can accomplish.
3. Leo Santibanez (AME) state qualifier last year and can only get better with coaching from the American coaching.
4. Luis Nodar(COL) he will get his wish and not have to cut weight. Healthy he might just make more noise than 4th.
140
1. Ray Parrado (GOL) state champion and nobody will get him off there this year.
2. Oxum Ramirez (SW) three times the bridesmaid.
3. Randy Pineyro (BRA) he will help Braddock as a team and will qualify in this weight class.
4. Ricky Hidalgo (COL) or Mike Lovette (HOM) winner goes to state.
145
1. Kendrick Sanders (SD) once again everyone else is fighting for second.
2. William Bell (SR) tough, strong, and the only real weapon of a fallen franchise.
3. Alec Dias (HML) his toughness and constant attacks will frustrate and annoy opponents and will give him a shot at qualifying.
4. Alex Lopez (MH) call me a secret admirer of Miami High but I think this kid will surprise.
152
1. Luis Montalvo (SD) hey what can you say, they got it and they don’t want to give it back.
2. Allen Pena (COL) maybe a stretch but it is about time he backs up his swagger.
3. Abraham Vidal (GOL) his workout partner is a state champion. He will stay here to get a shot at winning the region by staying away from Kendrick.
4. Tavares White (MS) not sure why but he is the only one that comes to mind. Stop laughing he is ranked you know.
160
1. Antonio Starr (HML) Turner finally gets back to the Regional finals.
2. Julian Eddie (SD) come on people he didn’t transfer for nothing. Victor will make something out of him.
3. Giovanni GIraldo (SUN) once again he is a senior and I just can’t think of anyone else.
4. Tramone Williams (SR) he is ranked but I know little of him. Maybe someone can shed some light but I just don’t see anyone else here.
you know now i like this site again. finally something to talk about and argue. i think palmetto will do way better than 6. they have a full team and they always appear out of nowhere every two years or so.
1 SD
2 COL
3 AM
4 BRA only because they have the Chandlers if not I don't think they break the top 15.
5 PAL
6 MH
7 HML
8 GOL
9 SW
10 SR
171
1. Brett Phillips (PAL) tough kid and a return for Palmetto to the finals.
2. Kevin Alzate (VAR) give this school credit they are trying to get better.
3. Shawn King (SD) returning and serious this year.
4. (AM) don’t know the kids name but he is tough
189
1. David Castillo (AME) he is dropping and he is a state qualifiers.
2. Travus Webster (SD) big, tough, strong, and very agile. He will score major point for south Dade.
3. Johnny Thompson (MH) once again I just have this feeling that they will come thru this year.
4. Adrian Blue (PAL) senior and has been at it for a couple of years. Very well coached.
215
1. Willie Wiggins (SD) nobody comes close to him. Why do you think American dropped their kid.
2. Daniel Clavijo (HIA) did you see him last year? No? You will get an eye full this year. Ponce will make this kid challenge Willie.
3. Emilious Davis (SM) this kid will be a wrecking ball for Pardo at the end of the season. He has nobody else to work with.
4. James laguere (KROP) about time this school has a kid place.
285
1. Henry Chirino (AM) in case you haven’t noticed, American will score all of their major points in the heavies. This is one tough heavy and he will shock people.
2. Alex Wethy (COL) he is big and will just smother the other smaller wrestlers.
3. Justin McCray (SR) I would put him higher than COL but I haven’t seen him this year.
4. Bernard Barnes (CC) or Todd Chandler (NW) whoever is still wrestling. Two huge studs who will need a little coaching and then allow their abilities to come thru.
There, I did my part for crown and country. I wonder who else will step up and give their opinions and insights.
Moonknight.
Teams:
1. SD
2. COL
3. AM
4. SW
5. BRD
103:
1. Hall
2. Gulesian
3. Turner
112:
1. Mcpherson
2. Harris
3. Noffo
4. Guzman (doubt he drops)
119:
1. Chandler
2. Olivera
3. Barrera
4. Ore
125:
1. Gulesian
2. Chandler
3. Montero
4. Alonzo
stay tuned
Wow, great response so far, I will begin tabulating soon.
Remember, if you want your vote to count please register, you will still remain anonymous.
Official poll results will be out by lunch on Monday.
Top Teams:
1. South Dade
2. Columbus
3. American
4. Braddock
5. Palmetto
6. Southwest
7. Miami High
8. HML
9. Southridge
10. Homestead
103
1. Earl Hall
2. Gulesian
3. Turner
4. ?
112
1. Quintavian McPherson
2. Harris assuming he drops
3. Noffo
4. Guzman
119
1. Chandler
2. Villanueva
3. Barrerra
4. Olivera
125
1. Chandler
2. Gulesian
3. Alonso
4. Montero
130
1. Rio
2. Rojas
3. Perez
4. ?
135
1. Metellus
2. Ramirez
3. Santibanez
4. Ruiz
140
1. Parrado
2. Ramirez
3. Perez
4. Pineyro/Hoffman could surprise people
145
1. Sanders
2. Bell
3. Vidal
4. Diaz
152
1. Montalvo
2. Starr
3. Pena
4. ?
160
1. Eddie
2. Porras
3. Lozada
4? - I'm not really sure what to expect at this weight
171
1. Phillips
2. Abedelo
3. King
4. ?
189
1. Webster
2. Castillo
3. Blue
4. Braddock/Toss up
215
1. Wiggins
2. Abadin
3. Clavijo
4. Laguerre... if not then expect to see a large metal object being wielded at referees
285
1. Chirino
2. McCray
3. Wethy
4. Plametto kid/any huge stud that comes around
I forgot a few people don't count my last one I'll post my official vote tommorow
The problem with the Chandler brothers is it's hard to remember which one is going up and which one is going down year to year since they alternate on who will cut.
Anyway, I will correct my mistake shortly.
Spiderman. I would like to see your votes.
Anonymous,
I will not be voting, I will merely be tallying the votes.
But if you like I can tell you how I feel about the rankings once they are in.
I'll tell you what for right now everyone I put at Number one is my opinion. I did it just to get the list's up. That can of course change as soon as next Monday, but at least for now you know what i think on who the number 1's are.
1. SD
2. Col - not even close to 3rd
3. Am
4. Bra
5. Pal
103.
Hall
Gulesian
Dec.
Turner
112
Harris
Quintavian
Noffo
Guzman
119 - tough weight class
Chandler
Berrios
Olivera
Villanuella/Berrera/Ore
125
Chandler
Gulisien
Montero
Alonzo
130.
Rio
Rojas
Perez
Ruiz
135.
Metellus
Santibanez
Ramirez
Nodar
140.
Ramirez
Parrado
Perez
Pineyro/Hoffman
145.
Sanders
Bell
Diaz
Vidal
152.- Weak weight class
Montalvo
Pena
?
?
160.
Eddie
Star
Williams
Giraldo
171.
Phillips
Abedelo
King
?
189.
Castillo
Webster
NMB
?
215.
Wiggins
Abadin
Clavijo
Davis
HWT.
Chirino
McCay
Wethy
Chandler
One more time, I will not be accepting anonymous votes for the consensus.
You may either vote publicly with a registered alias, or you may send me your votes privately at either my box on FKu (iampsiderman) or at Spiderman_fkn_wrestling@yahoo.com
I have already received a few private ballots and those will count; but again, I will not count anonymous submissions.
This does not mean you can't cast an anonymous ballot, you certainly can, feel free, it just will not be part of the official results.
Hey spideysorio, how old is your 285? Isn't he like, going to be 18 at states this year as a Junior?
Anonymous,
My 285 is 29 years old, He came from Cuba during Freedom flotilla of the Balseros in 1993. Unfortunately for him (but fortunate for us) he had a glandular disorder which stunted his growth and though he was 14 years old at the time because he did not have a birth certificate and because of his size they put him as a 4 year old. Unbelievably, not one of the border patrol agents realized that he already had a mustache. Anyway, just a week or so later while rummaging in the saw grass on the edge of the recreation area at the Chrome detention center he was bitten by a Mercury laden sand flea which poisoned his blood and he came very near death. The Doctors used an infusion of a charcoal based neutralizing agent that saved his life and also had the effect of activating his glandular problem that had stunted his growth. He was released from Chrome a scant few weeks later and by the end of that year had begun to grow normally. He started back in kindergarten which of course was super easy for him because he had already done that grade, and the rest of the grades up until high school for that matter. Anyway, the rest of the story you know, now he is one of the baddest heavyweights in the land, and sometime in early January he plans to beat Wethy from Columbus like a red headed step child.
Spideysorio
Wethy will tie him up like a pretzel.
OK, my picks:
1 SD
2 COL
3 BRA
4 AM
5 PAL
6 HML
7 MH
8 SW
9 GOL
10 SR
103 - Hall, SD
112 - Guzman, MH
119 - Chandler, Bra
125 - Chandler, Bra
130 - Rio, Col
135 - Metellus, SD
140 - Ramirez, SW
145 - Sanders, SD
152 - Montalvo, SD
160 - Star, HML
171 - Phillips, Pal
189 - Webster, SR
215 - Wiggins, SD
285 - Vinegra, Bra
I think palmetto is being underestimated here.
1.South Dade
2.American
3.Palmetto
4.Columbus
5.Braddock
103-Earl Hall
112-Quintavian McPherson
119-Juan Alonzo
125-Whichever Chandler
130-Jake Rio
135-Wilson Metellus
140-Quin Hoffman
145-Kendrick Sanders
152-Luis Montalvo
160-Starr
171-Philips
189-Webster
215-Willie Wiggins
285-Lekotka/McCray
paladin ur heavy got pined by some columbus guy
Spideysorio, its a good thing that he has that age advantage then, because he could'nt have beaten anyone his own age. We're glad he will be around even though he could've graduated last season like people his own age. Good ole Henry the 28 year old wonder.
LOL! Stop talking about poor ol' Henry like that! I think his self-esteem is low enough being stuck in class with kids 10 years younger than him! By the way, he pinned Wethy at Regionals, beat McRay also at Regionals, and recently majored the Viagr--I mean Vinegra.
I think it's great that Henry will start college at 20. Umm, I mean 29.
wethy pinned vingrea today
spiderosiro,
im gonna laugh if your heavy Chrinio losses to Wethy. I hope he does after you said that
Lets hold all of our kids back so we can compete with Spidersorio. Cheat to win!!
hey look!im just like the other anonymous columbus posters! i can say stupid sh!t and nobody knows! i can hide behind all the other anonymous posters! i am so cool that way!
btw, american is going to beat the a$$ snot out of columbus.
sincrely,
another nutless anonymous ;)
Yes, my pick for 285 lost yesterday. I was there and saw it for myself. Thanks for keeping me current on the status of my picks. How did the rest of them do?
Were these picks for now or for Regionals? If the picks are for now, I withdraw them and will resubmit the same list in February. What happens now matters very little.
It's not where you start that matters, it's where you finish.
How about spidey take a new poll and ask if it's cheating if you hold your kid back 2 years for an athletic advantage (like Henry C. Eric G)?
Spidey wont do it because he wouldnt talk about his 18 year, umm 28 year old 285 pounder like that. Spidey IS OSORIO!
that palmetto heavy went into like triple over time with wethy, hes not a force to ignore
Though yall should CHECK this out South Dade gets DEFEATED by Collins Hill High School...
Collins Hill 33, South Dade 26
125 – John Allgood (CH) pinned Andres Montero, 1:28
130 – Allen Willard (CH) major dec. Robert Rojas, 15-3
135 – Wilson Metellus (SD) dec. Daniel Wheeler, 9-3
140 – Joel Smith (CH) pinned Daren Anguiano, 1:30
145 – Kendrick Sanders (SD) major dec. Sam Hoppenbraumer, 9-1
152 – Taylor Knapp (CH) pinned Luis Mantalvo, 1:28
160 – Gary Tiller (CH) major dec. Julian Eddie, 14-3
171 – Shann King (SD) dec. Nick Holbert, 14-12
189 – Travus Wheeler (SD) pinned Mac Bennett, 1:30
215 – Willie Wiggins (SD) dec. C.J. Collins, 6-5
285 – Thomas Delain (CH) dec. Oscar Paz, 4-1 OT
103 – Earl Hall (SD) major dec. Bazell Partidge, 10-2
112 – Quintavian McPherson (SD) dec. Joseph Doyague
119 – T.J. Mitchell (CH) major dec. Mauricio Villanueva, 10-1
Records: Collins Hill (11-1), South Dade (9-1)
Nationally Ranked: Collins Hills: T.J. Mitchell (119), Joel Smith (140), Taylor Knapp (152)
All-Americans: South Dade: Earl Hall (103), Wilson Metellus (135), Kendrick Sanders (145), 2x Greco-Roman national champion), Willie Wiggins (215)
Southeast Rankings: 1. South Dade 2. Brandon 3. Collins Hill
IM not in2 superstition im sure i spelled it wrong but w/e but The school dat beat S.Dade Mascot is the Eagle JUS LIKE YOU KNOW WHO the team that will be coming from Tampa this week FOR the Dade Duals will South Dade lose to another Eagles TEAM....??
Brought to you by MeDatsWho...
Osorio must have very thick skin not to come on here and defend his heavy so I will. Chirino came out for wrestling last year and never wrestled before. This year is is bigger and better that is what happens when you work all summer. Whatever his age is remember that he is eligible or he would not be able to wrestle (ei. Josh Williams South Dade). Like Noffo and some others all of you "ANONYMOUS'S" should stick to insulting coaches, teams, and even an AD or two but leave the kids alone. They go out there and try to compete in a tough sport and need not have condecending jerkoffs like yourself talking crap. Check your ISIS computer and you will see that he is just as old as most of the seniors in the county, the only problem with Chirino is that he is going to kick the crap out of you or your team and you hate it.
Oh forgot to mention that he will also be eligible to wrestle next year. Do you really think that was on purpose? Are you really that stupid. The poor kid never even knew about wrestling until he joined last year. HMMM... sucks to be you, knowing that he is only getting bigger and better every day. Some advice for you, if you hate it that much stop typing and go work out or work your heavy out and beat him. No? I didn't think so, you don't strike me as the type to work hard.
no complaints here. give credit to coach buhdasorio he does well with big boys.
Anonymous,
Chirino will crush Wethy like a toy from the dollar store.
Then I will... I mean then Spideysorio will... I mean then Osorio will pi$$ in the corner of the gym and mark my territory as the greatest coach in the history of Dade County.
Anonymous,
Your poll is on the Lair, and you will be shocked by the response.
How can you say Henry is a kid? He could join the military right now! Years ago he could buy alchohol! The fact is that a lot of heavies start off coming from football, and all henry does is juice up. UMM... I mean drink his juice and take his super vitamins. Yes he may beat people but he brags about being the ONLY sophomore to Place last year. GUESS WHAT? HE WAS 17 years old! People graduate at 17 or at least early in their 18th year NOT 19! Or 28 as spideysorio says. Henry had to cheat to win, he couldnt beat guys his own age last year, so i'll bet he's glad he was held back twice! He taunts people on how he's the best yet he's 2-3 years older than his competitors! It's not right, but Henry's mistake is his cockyness.
wow spiderman keep attacking columbus kids.
Anonymous,
I am not attacking the Columbus kids as mush as I am antagonizing the Columbus faithful.
I happen to be very fond of some of the Columbus kids. Rio and Gulesian in particular are great wrestlers, they have not been able to get over the hump, but they are getting close and I am paying attention.
The little Gulesian is a tough little mother as well, that is not lost on me.
I also like Wethy and Abadine, but what I can't stand is the air of unwarranted superiority that emanates from the Columbus faithful as if they have actually accomplished something.
Win something, beat someone that matters, and then talk; I will be the first to support you, after all you are a Dade team and first and foremost I am a Dade supporter.
I think the palmetto HWT should be ranked up there in the top 5....i mean he did go into 4 overtimes with wethy and like all the other HWTs hes just been getting stronger...also at the winter springs tourny he wnt into triple ot with george mills who is also ranked...he is being a little underestimated
i dont think abadin should be ranked second, the american kid who went into overtime with wiggins should be. also, the palmetto 215 should be up there, he was second in district last year and went into overtime with abadin
what weight is william bell going this year 145 or 152???
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