Word has it that Matt Noffo is transferring to Christopher Colombus Senior High.
Implications of this move...
Who will lose their spot?
Will he improve?
Who or what will be to blame this time if he does not improve?
Is Colombus becoming a haven for malcontents and underachievers?
165 comments:
Anonymous,
I am but a humble vaudevillian veteran, a simple messenger cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This persona, this visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi. I have vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin who seek to recruit talent for their own selfish and arrogant purpose.
Columbus rocks. We can do and will do whatever we want. Stay tuned because this would not be the only offseason surprise. Hold on to your seats!!!
Yes we all already know about Montero. You didn't hide that one very well.
Anonymous #1,
Thanks I resemble that comment.
I see you took some time to think it over, examine the circumstances, and finally conclude that I am a Jerk.
OK thanks for enlightening me.
Spiderman,
Well vsaid. Though I think you could have found a better Valias.
Just thought I'd add an extra V or two in there.
Anonymous #2,
Columbus does rock, it must be nice to be able to recruit with impunity.
Husk was already one of the best at recruiting when he was at South Ridge, he should be able to do wonders at Columbus.
Believe it or not I'm not hattin, I say if they let you do it, have at it, you'd be stupid not too.
Anonymous #3
Montero is not a certainty, though I did witness much courting by the Columbus boys and even some of the coaches during the State series.
If Vasquez comes back, Montero stays at CG, if Vasquez does not return, then Columbus willhave first dibs.
Who will pay his tuition is another story, Montero can't afford columbus, get one of your parents with deep pockets to flip the bill and you can have him, otherwise...
Great, just what a good kid like Noffo needs, more controversy. Leave him alone already!
Leave Montero alone too. He is not going anywhere! Guaranteed! He belongs to Rodriguez/Dominguez and Vazquez!
This can be solved very easily. Don't schedule a match with Columbus. Let them go to their little tournaments and then beat them when it counts at GMAC and regionals. Let them travel out in order for them to get matches against lesser opponents.
That's right all you haters. I told you Columbus would be coming back with a vengance. Watch out. We will destroy everyone including that little piss head Osorio.
Anonymous,
Noffo is a good kid in my opinion.
I never saw him display anything other than sportsmanship save for an open handed gesture of disapproval for a cal or something.
Still, he always shook hands and acted very sportingly towards his opponents.
His father on the other hand is another story, he will likely fit in well with the rest of the Columbus parents.
Other anonymous,
Your plan is not that easy, the teams in Dist. 15 would still have to wrestle them by G.M.A.C. rule.
Also, Columbus would still be at many of the tournaments that Dade teams attend, and they would of course have their recruiters be active their.
I think the only thing that would work is if you see a Columbus parent, coach or Student talking to one of your kids, that you should tell the coach or the parent to please keep the Fu_k away from your kids. If it's another wrestler doing the recruiting keep the word Fu_k out of it but the rest applies.
Also you should warn your kids to stay away from Columbus kids and parents, and to tell you immediately if one of them tries talking to one of your kids.
Let Columbus know you are watching them and you won't put up with their $hit and they will back off. Act indifferent to it, and they will take your milk money.
Other other Anonymous... Umm... I mean Superman,
First of all , why have you stopped using you Superman alias?
Second of all, next year is a make or break year for Columbus
Nodar is will be a senior, Rio a senior, Gulesian a senior, Montero (Assuming you get him) a senior, Abadin a senior, and the rest are barely mentionable. Throw in Noffo for good measure, though I don't see him making 103 again, and a bigger stronger Hall would not fit his plans anyway. Add in some T-Rex at 112 some Chandler juice at 119 and 125 and it and I don't see an open weight class for him anywhere.
With all that apparent firepower, Columbus will still have to play second fiddle to South Dade, and consider yourself fortunate if you can withstand a bigger stronger more Osorio prepared American.
Say what you want, this is the reality of it.
Accept, release, move-on.
you do not need to wrestle the teams in your district. it would be nice, but you do not have to. look it up if you want. it does not say it anywhere in writing. it is only done for convinience.
You are correct. There is nothing in the FHSAA that says you have to wrestle the teams in your district. However, the GMAC STRONGLY encourages you to wrestle all the teams in your district to make the GMAC Seeding meetings faster. As of right now there are only 2 teams that do not wrestle in their District Dual tournaments, Sunset and Palmetto. Both of those schools choose to wrestle all of their District schools in stand alone Dual Meets.
Even though I am a crack ho Columbus tried to recruit me too. Old man Gulesian wanted me McCOy too but crack kills.
gmac can strongly recommend what ever they want. you do not have to wrestle your district schools. everyone should avoid scheduling columbus. has anyone seen them in the middle school events so far. these guys are a disgrace. they even have their parents going around trying to recruit for them.
I think everyone should go back and change their vote for Tico. He is by the best wrestler to ever come out of Dade County. This is going by his accomplishments. He won everything except for states as a freshman where he took second.
Several of the Columbus wrestlers younger brothers wrestle in middle school...that is why they are there anonymous.....
I believe this might be the one time that KW might be wrong.
The following is a reply to my inquiry from a very good source with higher position and understanding on this situation than KW.
“The G.M.A.C. has the athletic directors schedule district competition and set dates before the scheduling meeting takes place in all sports except wrestling. An exception is made for wrestling because wrestling has devised the district duals. Were wrestling teams to forgo their district duals format, AD’s would schedule district matches for them as prescribed by the G.M.A.C. Furthermore, the G.M.A.C. office would not allow any organized or colluded effort against Columbus because Columbus is a sanctioned member of the G.M.A.C. and thus protected by the G.M.A.C.”
My source further explains to me that KW is new to being an Athletic Director and although he is doing an exceptional job as a first year AD that he is not yet fully aware of all the in’s and out’s of the G.M.A.C.
My source says if KW would like to test the theory he may by attempting to forego scheduling Columbus since they are in the same district. At which point he would receive a call from the G.M.A.C. office with a directive to schedule Columbus to a match if it’s wrestling, a game if its football, a home and away contest for Baseball, Basketball, Soccer and other team sports etc.
No offense KW but I have to side with this source for now because of their position. It would be really cool though if you actually tested the theory and we could have a finite response on the matter. In other words, try not scheduling Columbus when the Basketball meetings come up pretty soon and see what happens.
Anonymous,
If you read into what KW said, you will see that you do have to schedule Columbus.
You are wrong!
Anoymous,
There is no doubt that Tico is one of the greats, and if the vote was for wrestler of the career I would wholeheartedly agree.
However, I think wrestler of the year is more for who made you look. Who made you shake your head and go WOW! Who left an impression on you. Who overcame. And who you were impressed by.
Tico has already accomplished all those accolades, including having been wrestler of the year. Therefore, I believe that Earl Hall should be wrestler of the Year, he certainly fits all the criteria.
If it's any consolation, Tico will be Mr. Florida 3A Wrestler of the Year.
These recruiting allegations hold severe ramifications to a proud school of academia. Once thought to have been put to pasture, Husk has risen and become recrudesce again. Never mind those ridiculous accusations about his rallentando in his old age. He has rastered the area rapaciously for talent. Using his rectitudinous attitude claiming realia as his ultimate end he redresses those allegations and the reboant of others who ramble about his recruiting. Now they seek to retaliate and respond to those responsible for the rapture of their raw talent. They know that Columbus’s ravenous nature only seeks to ravish the land trying to recapture that high ridge it once held. By their recalcitrant attitude they mean to stick it up the rectum of those retards rioting for a reckoning.
Spidey,
I really should be working on other things, but I had to comment on some things.
I was only talking about wrestling. In wrestling there is no FHSAA directive to wrestle the teams in you district. In Basketball, Baseball, Football and the other teams sports you have to play your distict opponents (1 time or 2 times depending on what the distrcit votes for). This is to determine who is seeded where in the District Tournament for these sports. In individual sports like track and swimming you do not have to compete with you district schools, because your time places you in the District tournament and the team can bring a certain number of individuals. Wrestling falls in this category. You weigh in 1 wrestler in each of the 14 weight classes and then you seed the tournament (I know some Districts do it ahead of time, but the brackets are not finalized until after weigh ins).
Spidey, please reread what I said. I never once asked for a boycott of Columbus. Columbus is a great draw for most schools (all those parents buying tickets). I was just pointing out that schools do not have to schedule Columbus if they do not want to. For a couple of years at South Dade we did not wrestle all the teams in our District. Instead of the District Duals we went to a different tournament that same weekend, and only had stand alone dual meets with Southridge, Palmetto, Varela and Coral Reef. That year we did not wrestle Killian or Homestead. South Dade was not fined, it made for some interesting arguements at the seeding meetings because of a lack of head to head matches.
Since I've been coaching (10 years now), the coaches have always scheduled all of their matches for wrestling. It would be impossible to the AD to schedule all the District Matches. In sports like Basketball and Baseball we have plenty of officials to do 16 games a night. Could you imagine finding 16 wrestling officials, not using any coach as an offical, because each of the 32 GMAC schools would be wrestling on the same day. The individual sports schedule their own competitions, Cross Country, Swimming, Golf, Wrestling, and Track and Field. The team sports Volleyball, Soccer, Basketball, Baseball, Softball, and Water Polo the ADs do the District Schedule and then the coaches fill in the remaining dates.
Speaking of Columbus I'm heading over there tonight for our Baseball game. It is the first game that I will see since the stadium was redone just a couple of years ago. And I can't wait for our game in a couple of weeks here (with all those parents) it will help out my budget.
Spiderman (wink)
That was funny. But seriously, can't you find a better alias than that?
I do respectfully request replenishment of my renegade and rambunctious rants, but this is to much really.
KW,
My apologies, I did not mean to imply that you were suggesting a boycott of Columbus; that was what the Anonymous poster wanted, if it came across as if I implied you were suggesting that I am sorry.
I think my source was commenting on the general nature of things, not so much wrestling, so that may be the confusion.
However, I believe if teams in Dist. 15 refused to schedule Columbus in duals and the Columbus AD called the G.M.A.C. office with a complaint, I think all the teams in Dist. 15 would be directed to put Columbus on the schedule. I understand that while at South Dade you guys may not have wrestled against many of your district opponents, but I believe it's only because no one made an issue of it. I believe if anyone of those teams had called the G.M.A.C. office and complained Mr. Furnary would have received a call telling him to make sure to schedule district teams the following season.
One more thing because this e-mail just came in from my source. He claims there was a time when AD's did schedule District Wrestling matches prior to the Scheduling meeting. This procedure however only lasted the one season maybe two because of the advent of the District duals, and the AD's allowing the coaches to do it themselves.
The gloom that seems to guzzle Dade wrestling was nothing but a ganglion at first. Because no one gibbeted them from the start they now gloat about their newly acquired gems though they are not the gamin the old man is used to. Where is the gulag who governs this land and why is she not gibbeting Columbus and sending in her Gestapo. Has his guile been so keen and his gammon so well spoken thru his guttural sounds that he doesn’t garner any guilt. To the guillotine I say. This glutton gloats about his gems while the gown in charge lacks the gumption to place even the smallest of glitches in his plan. Is he really spewing gnosis or merely giardia of the central orifice. So long as he is allowed to gloat and be giddy with his newly acquired gems, his guerrillas will continue to serve as gophers to try and gammon more gamins to their ultimate gnosis. All this while the gulag sits gestating on what grand action she should generate to gain the confidence of the county.
Spiderman???
All I can say is
Gee!
Spiderman,
I agree with KW. Scheduling Columbus would be a great money maker for any team. Yes they may recruit but no one can prove it and as you have state many times, "if you can get away with it, then do it". More power to them I say. I do wonder what Superman thinks of these new allegations. You think he will approve of the recruiting or not?
Coach KW,
I think you are more than well aware of what your position as an AD is. You really don't have to schedule your district teams although I am sure that parental complaints would force any school to schedule them. I really can't see any school boycoting their match with them because of what they are being accused of.
Perhaps everyone is focusing on the wrong Montero...
Columbus is not the only private school that has been visiting middle school events on the prowl for fresh bodies.
On another note, I believe Doral Academy (DA) has a new head coach.
I beleive teams should boycott Columbus. What are they going to do, cry? I know the GMAC can't do anything. If the district teams by any chance what so ever are forced to schedule, which they won't be, what's that 5 or 6 Dade County teams on their schedule, where only 2 are actually any good, if that. Yeah and what's with Doral trying to recruit as well. those guys are idiots. Varona was booted from coaching at MDPS.
Didn't Varona hold his kid back like 2 times? That is crazy.
Not to appear captious while commenting on what some may think is canard. I seek to chasten the chastisement of the cockroaches who seek to capture and cajole youth for their own coronation. Columbus seeks to cartelize the county under their control and have conspired and consented to give credence to the credentials of a less than credible establishment. To them kids are cannon fodder used to carve a conspicuous place at the top of the county and satisfy their craving for championships no matter the casualties. Carpe diem they contend, cantankerously and carelessly bypassing their canonical hour where casuistry should have been reached. The contrite caregivers of the youth carelessly consent their control over to those contentious Christians content that they will turn their cub into a champion as though thru a chrysalis. When a couple conspire to connect with cons then we cannot complain nor compell said couple into reason nor cajole them into considerating their cub and the consequences of the callous actions that can arise by their commital to the constant and convulsive commentary by said conmen.
I believe that KW should be named Miami-Dade's Czar of Wrestling,with powers similat to those of Pervez Musharraff
May I have your attention please, may I have your attention please,
Will the real Spiderman please stand up,
I repeat will the real Spiderman please stand up...we're gonna have a problem here...
do we have to suffer the whole alphabet?
its funyy how season barely has ended and the shit talking already began.. trying to put our team out there cause we got 1 kid? why doesnt any1 say anything when south dade picks up mettlus? or when ovideo picked up half there lineup 2 years ago? why dont you stop hating, let the teams do the talkin next season and all you guys get a life instead of watching us and posting it online
Anonymous,
Are you kidding me? You are Superman right. You come on here accusing other schools of recruiting and attacking those coaches and now that your school was obviously recruting during the last couple of team tournaments and you start to cry? Excuse me but you are a b!t@h. Stop crying and get excited about your new recruits. Brag about them and claim them as your own because nobody will stand in your way. Congratulations on your new recruiting class. May they serve you well.
Anoymous,
The Montero in question is the one at Coral Gables not the one at Sunset.
Spidey,
You are losing your touch. It was the Devil's Advocate that mentioned the other Montero not anonymous. Just thought I'd mention that since you also made an error yesterday about what KW had originally said. Since Mr. Grammar has been AWOL I thought I would pick up the slack until he gets back.
Yes Varona did hold his kid back 2 years. He should be a sophomore now. I hate it when I see these parents do stuff like this to their kids, it really sucks. But, I think the bigger story here is Columbus. I would not worry about them FHSAA is already aware not even Spidey new this. Read your books. Just because they are a private school it does not mean they can recruit.
Montero from Gables IS NOT TRANSFERING ANYWHERE!
I said another Montero to make a point. The Montero from Sunset was offered Doral last year and Daddy Montero declined.
FHSAA has not shown the NUTS to go after Columbus. Have they recently found some?
What makes you think they will have proof? Regardless of what one believes is true, being able to PROVE it is something entirely else.
Just because someone works at a bank and does all of the recruiting and not does not work directly at the school does not make for proof.
Just because an alumnus coaches at a middle school that sends all their kids to Columbus proves nothing.
Just because an assistant tries to ref at the better middle school matches for recruitment means nothing.
Just because they patrol district and county middle school tournaments like a SVU officer works 8th Street looking for potential hook-ups proves nothing.
There is no proof. What can the FHSAA actually dig their fingers into? Do they really want to go after such an honored, highly esteemed member of the Hall of Fame?
Moonie,
Thanks for the correction, it is always easy to make mistakes when one is writing hastily, I will try to slow down and pay better attention.
Wow Devil's advocate, where did you get all this info. Is any of it even true? You have one thing right, the FHSAA will not do anything because Husk and his tribe of loosers are too cool.
Lately I have been asking about middle school wrestling, "Who is good? Who to watch?" etc, etc. hoping for some insight and hoping a certain school can start a feeder to help the program I root for. What I continue to hear is the same things and the same complaints. Recruiting! How can so many have the same concerns, yet no actions take place.
Anonymous, do you have any PROOF to oppose my findings?
Spiderman?
That last one with the C's was brilliant. You may proceed.
Devils Advocate,
There is only one real Spiderman, and my name is always in Blue menaing I am logged in.
However, I don't really mind imposters so...
Moon Knight:
I have taken a break from policing the grammar on this site due to exhaustion from the onslaught of grammatically incorrect prose.I will be going to Britain to bask in the glow of properly written English for the next couple of weeks.Perhaps El Kubiche will fill in for me in the nonce :).
God Save the Queen!
Columbus delusion must make them delusional if they feel their actions are deminimis. The demented demon who’s deeds are done in deep darkness does it again. They must be the dowsabel of Dade. They should be dappled so their dastardly deeds done dauntlessly to defeat and destroy the dream of coaches dare not go unnoticed. Their doyen leaves us all in a dystopia feeling droit over his diciples. The dame in charge should show some dentulus and defend her dominion before dearth spreads thru the land. Instead of dawdling about in her dyspnea diluted in her belief that deprecation for their deeds will soon come. Dethrone those dastardly dummies before they destroy Dade. The dope that drags South Dade and others to this discussion thinking we will discriminate will be depressed. We will duplicate this discharge without being discrete if we discover that they doodle in the same drink of deception of deeds that are done by these dastardly dogs. Bringing other Dade teams doesn’t diminish or detract from deeds done deceivingly by those who seek to dignify their doyen. Stand and dare to defecate on their door while the darkest of days does draws near. Dishonor instead of decadence will adorn their dreams.
Uhumm... Spiderman?
Hard to believe but your are getting even better at this. I fear we will be subject to your stammering stamina for some Seasons.
Simply Spidey
P.S. Letters covered So far:
C, D, G, R, and V.
I'd like to see you try X, LOL!!!
to anonymous,
going from not even placing or taking anyone 2 states 2 years ago to placing 3rd in the region and advancing 6 to state is not building up a program? u wanna take the kids who dont belong at our school out? are u stupid?? ITS A PRIVATE SCHOOL ANYONE CAN GO AND NOBODY REALLY "BELONGS" THERE.
Spiderman,
Don't hate on Columbus they are gonna donminate in 2008 even if you don't like it!
I don't think anyone realizez that American only graduated 3 seniors and has 3 more guys that have been working hard ever since Osorio got there. Expect 3 bigger and better beasts to emerge to fill the slots opened up at 152,160,171. They might even give SD a run for their money.
Your smoking crack Columbus will give them a run for there money biach
Hey quit the crack comments IM the only crack ho here. chwrcoach the ch is for crack ho. By the way Noffo was almost a Gibbonite instead. SD is the team and all this recruiting by pissorio and Husk will still only be for second best.
Funny how for four years we've been listening to Balmaceda cry about Oviedo cheating their way to titles and how they were the legitimate state champs. So now I guess we have to lay in bed with swine and become the swine we detest so much? Columbus? Why is anyone shocked? Husk did this for decades at Ridge. Osorio's just as bad. How did he get away with kids following him (or was it him following them) to American? And I here he's not finished convincing some to transfer either. South Dade, who cried for years about others has had two questionable transfers the past two years. Pace too. Where does it all end? Are we now Oviedo south?
Husk being no xeno to this issue is the XO of Columbus and now has the XN coolition backing him and no xanthippe at home to worry about. He goes to Columbus where he now tries to xerox his past and become the Xerxes of the new world. Thought to be a simple xanthoma he leads a would be xeric school with a flag of Xnty holding a xiphoid knowing his xerophilous nature. In his new exotic xanadu this XO uses his xyster without xylocaine on the bones of weak teams causing xenophobia in tournaments. With his newly recruited xebec he hopes to pour xylidine on the bucs and the rest of dade. X marks the spot where he will x-ray the new recruits in an x-rated manner hoping to create a new xenogenesis and converting xenon hexaflouride into championship diamonds.
Anonymous,
You talk and accuse these coaches and teams of recruiting with such passion that I almost believed you. I took the time to check out some information that was given here and on other sites and here are my insights:
South Dade:
If you were Wilson Metellus and you were no longer allowed to stay at Pace where would you want to go. Do you really think Balmaceda went out of his way to beg and plead Metellus to come and save South Dade. This is a team that lost Watson because he knew a spot was not guaranteed. They have Aguiano sitting on the sidelines waiting for his turn. Omi Acosta had to sit out after his injury because there was no spot for him. I dare say that the addition of Metellus actually hurt the Buc’s. They could have had Rat at 130 and moved everyone up to make room for Omi whom everyone believes would have competed for a state title this year. You are comparing Balmaceda and his team to Oviedo who covets state champions from the whole nation as well as multi State placers and convinces them to come move and wrestled for them. You sir are an idiot. Oviedo had multiple high profile transfers to their school year in and year out throughout their multi state title runs. South Dade had 1 (ONE) and you compare the two? You must be a sorry ass coach who can’t get his team to win at any level and are forced to come on this blog to talk sh!t about a team that has worked hard to accomplish what they did. If I was Metellus or anyone else in the county and was forced to leave my school for another then South Dade, here I come. They don’t need to recruit they work their butts off and kids want to be a part of that program. This is much different than what Ocheetos had.
Anonyous,
Which Spiderman are you talking about?
I personally don't have anything against Columbus, though I understand Spiderman might. If this is too confusing I'm sorry it is not my doing, I am just answering your post.
Other Anonymous,
I am still waiting on a good explanation as to why boycotting them would be a good idea.
what is that supposed to accomplish?
Anonymous,
You talk and accuse these coaches and teams of recruiting with such passion that I almost believed you. I took the time to check out some information that was given here and on other sites and here are my insights:
American:
When Osorio decided to leave Hialeah his kids spread out thru the county like rats leaving a sinking ship. Some went to Riverdale, Mater, Goleman, and one to American. He gets hired by American and the one kid that gets lucky to have transfered to American gets to be coached by him again. You call that recruiting? Your kidding me right. As KW clarified on an earlier blog most if not all of those kids were already there when Osorio got there and had wrestled for American the year before with little to no success. Add the transfer of Harris to American and considering how great Harris was at Krop (according to the 2007 region brackets), you knew that he was already a stud (sarcasm there stup!p). I venture to say that the Krop coach was happy to get rid of him anyway. WOW what a pick up for the recruiting Osorio. Yep just like Oviedo, you are right. Once again I need to remind you that Oviedo recruited State Champions and placers not just anybody. I guess when it comes to recruiting Osorio still has a lot to learn from Oviedo. Again you are trying to diminish this a man’s accomplishments by talking trash about his team as well as him simply because you can’t seem to understand what good coaching is. You sit by your computer accusing everyone and anyone to make yourself feel better about your inability to perform or even be recognized as one of the better coaches in the county. You my idiotic friend are full of sh!t. One more item to address here, if you are a kid in the northern part of the county and are forced to move to another school for whatever reason and you happen to be a wrestler, where would you go if South Dade was not an option? Columbus would be your choice except they are a nepotistic fraternity and only accept certain wrestlers into their secret society. That leaves you with the options of HML, Goleman, NMB, Krop, Carol City, Hialeah, and American. Which would you choose? I think I know what your answer would be.
Other Other Anonymous,
I guess if you can't beat them Join them.
You'd be hard pressed to show me an example of a team that won anything with all home grown talent.
Historically all the best teams have one common denominator, they all circumvent the rules (cheat) to get ahead, there are no if's and's or But's about it. That is just the way it is.
Spiderman (Two Winks)
That was simply Xquisite.
LOL!!!
Anonymous,
You talk and accuse these coaches and teams of recruiting with such passion that I almost believed you. I took the time to check out some information that was given here and on other sites and here are my insights:
Columbus:
Husk is being accused of recruiting by everyone on this site yet nobody has taken the time to really look at the circumstances of the new arrivals. Columbus is not plucking kids from South Dade or any other winning program nor are they going all over the state to pick up state placers and champions. They are simply going after the one good kid that is on a bad program. I guess I should not call them a bad program, instead lets just say that they are less than South Dade, Braddock, South West, Southridge, American and the rest of the top 5 schools in the county. Montero from Coral Gables? If I was Vasquez I would force my kid to go over to Columbus if I really cared about him having an opportunity to win a title. The level of competition and coaching at Columbus far exceeds that of Coral Gables and would only serve Montero to better himself and maybe have a better shot at getting to a better college at the end of his senior season. That really can’t be considered recruiting although many of the Columbus kids were smooching Montero at every tournament and drooling all over him. Noffo’s transfer to Columbus is yet another example of a kid who really can’t get any better at his school and needs better coaching and a better wrestling room full of talent. You can’t blame this kid for wanting to better himself by seeking a new school. Once again I ask you the same question, if you were Noffo and South Dade was out of the question and you really knew that you needed to find a better program where would you go. Where could you go. I think I know the answer to that as well. Once again you will sit by your computer and talk sh!t about these coaches and programs because you suck as a coach and probably lost a kid or two to a better program once your kids realized just how bad of a coach you really are. I will tell you what American, South Dade, Braddock, and all of the other good wrestling schools are doing while you are typing away mad as hell, they are practicing, lifting weights, running, going to tournament, and doing everything they can to better their kids and program before the start of the next wrestling season. What are you doing? Typing and talking sh!t. Keep doing what you are doing and you will see yet more kids leave your less than wonderful program to one of the above mentioned schools.
Moon-ass:
So basically what you are saying is that its OK to move to SD, or American or Columbus if its in the best interest of the kid? So you are saying that there are only what, 3 or 4 good coaches who are worthy of coaching those kids? Are you freakin searous? You sir are a double speaking jackass. Ok for the programs you like, not ok for the others. In addition to Metellus there was the Prince. Admittedly SD hasn't been as active as Ocheeto, but you have to admit they get points for style. Where theres smoke, there's generally fire unless it's the crack you are obviously smokin. If enough people have witnessed the blatant recruiting of the Columbus people as has been reported here something must be amiss.Instead of reverting to name calling, maybe you should take your blinders off, put down the koolaid and admit to the facts. There hasn't been a legitimate state title won with homegrown kids in several years in any classification: Not Pace, Not JC, Not Gibbons, Not Ocheeto, Not Brandon, no one is immune. The FHSAA rule doesn't say its ok if the coach comes before the kid or visaversa. Go ahead and ask the mighty K.W. if you don't believe me. The rule says neither situation can happen. With all the cryin about Judges and high priced lawyers allowing some to circumvent the rules I guess you must be one of the ones that think its ok because others have gotten away with it for so long. Well guess what jackass, you cant keep livin in that big glass house of urs anymore. If it aint right for Pamletto or Brandon or Ocheeto or Gibbons or JC, it aint ok for your favorite team either...chew on that one madik!!!!
Anonymous,
All of your points are correct and well taken except for the 'double speaking jackass' comment. I am not saying nor will I ever say that it is ok for anyone to recruit in any shape, form or fashion. My problem was with the constant accusations and allegations of impropriety commited by 'some' programs. You cannot accuse these programs of recruiting if the kid themselves forces the move without any convincing or 'push' from the receiving school. Kids will move to where they feel they will have a better shot at a state title. Columbus does recruit and they send out their parents and kids to do it for them so their hands are kept clean. South Dade to the south and now American to the north are two of the schools that will have constant people accusing them of recruting simply because they have a very good program that kids are going to want to be a part of. I am not smearing any of the other programs with great coaches like Rivera from Sunset, Mendez from Southwest, Tejada from Braddock and many other great coaches. The point is that South Dade 'rocks' and therefor will suffer the scrutini of passerbyes because of their program. American will now suffer the same indignities in the north. Soon Palmetto, NMB, and Southwest will also suffer this problem when their young stars become great and kids will want to move to their school. That is not recruiting and cannot be considered among the same crap that Oviedo or Columbus does. Maybe my point was made maybe not.
Anonymous,
I believe you are wrong about at least one thing. If I remember correctly the ref made mention of it. An athlete may not follow a coach when the coach transfers schools, but I don't think there is anything in the rules that says that the coach can't follow the athlete. Hopefully if the ref is reading this he can weigh in.
moon kinight you are an idiot. these kids don't know their asshole from a whole in the wall. do you really think they sit there and say, hmm my school sucks i want to go to american or southdade or whatever school. you don't think osorio knew he was leaving and told garcia to transfer before the school year ends, you don't think he spoke with armani's parents. you are naive. everything that occurs with maybe very little exceptions is calculated. phone calls are made these kids or thier parents are spoken to by someone. southdade has been taking kids from avery middle school for the longest who do not belong to them. there are kids right now on their team that do not live in the area. now that is all good, i understand, but do not say that the kids made the sole decision to go there. now who does it more or less or who does it smarter does not really matter the fact is that they are doing it. I can seemetellus getting kicked out andsaying hmm, i am going to go to southdade, i do not think i'll make the teambecause i don't know who is where, but i'll go anyways. both coaches spoke with each other and metellus and the deal was made. noff also said to himself while eating a jello pudding pop, hmm i hate my team i think i'll go to, hmm let me see, yes i'll go to columbus. best one of all. armani and his dad playing call of duty on xbox, hey dad, yes son, can i go to american, well of course son, you know who is going to be there, your brothers old coach, that will be neat dad, ha ha ha ha, they both laugh together.
Anonymous,
(I apologize, I was laughing so much that I misspelled some words and had to remove the post so as to correct it).
You are too much and you are also right. Your incredible sense of humor about the whole process has opened my eyes while my ass was being laughed off. Thanks for your insights and I now change my mind and say that they have all recruited in some sort of fashion. You know if more people came on this board and spoke with the levity that you did, then there would be less arguing and more discussion. As for this topic, you have swayed me my friend. Congratulations you must have had a amazing debate teacher. LOL. By the way, you might want to refrain from the vulgarity. I know some colorful metaphors are needed from time to time but maybe you used one too many. Just a thought.
moon knight thank you and i'm sorry for the vulgarity. i'm just trying to make sense of things.
Moonie and Anonymous,
What the F_ck are you guys doing?
You gotta be kidding me, you can't agree!
Hold on now, this is going to kill my site, if people all of a sudden start having rational conversations with logical statements that affects the others disposition on things adn further you are civil about it to eachother it could kill the interenet.
This is Bull $hit, I demand that you two disagree and begin fighting again or risk being baned from the Spiders Lair.
LOL!!!
Man I love satire, I should have been a writer.
Anonymous,
I must ask you to think about some things before we allow this discussion to go the way of the dodo:
Noffo: “(noff also said to himself while eating a jello pudding pop, hmm i hate my team i think i'll go to, hmm let me see, yes i'll go to Columbus)”. He has been wrestling for many years under Dewberry and the YMCA. His father has been there the whole time. You must give that parent the benefit of the doubt and know that he understands the level of coaching and the level of the room his son is in. You are correct and he might have spoken with the Columbus representatives to make sure that there was a position available for him but in this case I am sure the parent made the first move. You are right it is still recruiting but not like Oviedo.
Garcia: “(you don't think osorio knew he was leaving and told garcia to transfer before the school year ends)”. I am sure the kids knew he was leaving but why Garcia and not Nates or any of the others. On this one I think you might be wrong. Since all the kids left for different schools then I have to give Osorio the benefit of the doubt and say that his hands are clean on this one.
Harris: “(armani and his dad playing call of duty on xbox, hey dad, yes son, can i go to american, well of course son, you know who is going to be there, your brothers old coach, that will be neat dad, ha ha ha ha, they both laugh together)”. I can’t find any argument with this one. I am sure there were discussion and chatter. You put this one in such a comical situation that you have to be right. I can’t understand why Osorio would bring young Harris in so I will say that the parents made the first move on this one. I can’t see them bringing in young Harris not knowing if he was going to have a varsity spot or not. That being said, I am sure there were some discussions behind closed doors.
South Dade: “(southdade has been taking kids from avery middle school for the longest who do not belong to them. there are kids right now on their team that do not live in the area. now that is all good, i understand, but do not say that the kids made the sole decision to go there. now who does it more or less or who does it smarter does not really matter the fact is that they are doing it. I can seemetellus getting kicked out andsaying hmm, i am going to go to southdade, i do not think i'll make the teambecause i don't know who is where, but i'll go anyways. both coaches spoke with each other and metellus and the deal was made)”. I see the link between the two coaches as well as the helpful nudge towards South Dade from the Pace coach. I can’t say that I know any of the middle school situations but you must know that the parents have to know and understand where they want their kids to go. Being in that environment for such a long time has to somehow influence the parents. Not to say that there was no nudging by the coaches and staff especially for an exceptional athlete, so once again you are correct in your statements funny as they are.
what oviedo does can not even be talked about. dade does not compare. nates tried, believe me, it just backfired. all this talk was going on at the time he tried to go after a very well planned returned from riverdale. osorio can't take everyone, only the ones he knew or thought for sure would win a regional or state title. if nates would have gone over, the poop would have hit the fan. armani needed tweaking and there was no one to give competion at 3 or 12s so why not interrupt the family as they were getting ready to play Jenga or Yahtzee while they roast marshmellows in the fireplace and let them know of the chages occuring in their area. lastly of this goes on by more schools than we think. very few and i mean few coaches work with what they have. do you really think gabe and eric chandler stopped in the middle of taking each others pokemon cards and told thier dad, hey dad get off the computer; hey can we go to braddock, we love coach tejada and his little long haired sidekick jackie chan; oh, sorry, we mean sergio. i hope this clears things up a little.
Anonymous,
HAH HAH LOL heheh and any other way to say LAUGHING MY FAT A$$ OFF. Are you sure youre not Doc Doom under a different moniker or maybe Spiderman or any of the other heros who frequent this site. Your comedy has me in stiches. You are very right and I now totally agree with you. LOL. Thanks for the laugh and the comedy on this dreary friday morning. I hope you can pick up a name so I know when I'm really chatting with you. It has been an experience and extremely fun. LOL.
Anonymous,
"Pokemon cards", LOL that was great. "Hey dad get off the computer", HAHAH even better. HAHAH. Wow that was great. Spiderman you really should give this man a holler. He is funny as heck.
I agree with Moonie Anonymous, you need an Alias. Now if you don't want to get one by registering with Google, then just select open ID and type your name in each time you post. It will add to continuity, and it will help us reference eachother when we converse.
Anonymous,
"We love coach tejada and his LITTLE LONG HAIRED SIDEKICK JACKIE CHAN", LOL. WOW this is great. This site needed some comedy and my friend you fit the bill. Jackie Chan, HAHAH.. Can't stop laughing. LOL :-)
how do i sign up with a name. for now i'll just call myself the joker so you know who you are speaking to.
the joker!
just trying this out. thank you, spiderman. i'm glad to be here chatting with you guys. after you click open id what do you do? what is url.
Anonymous,
Just place the name JOKER where it says name and nothing under URL and your name should appear as mine just did.
ok here it goes.
i think i got it. ishould hang out with chandler senior to learn about computers. his a nice guy by the way.
Joker,
I am sure Jackie Chan is as well. LOL.
I am a nice guy!
Though a little high strung like a Chiwawa you know.
You quiero Taco Bell
Joker,
Ah the pitfalls of not having your own screen name, I knew that was coming.
OK Joker... See unless you subscribe anyone can use your tag and you really don't want that. when you sign on and use your own account your name will appear in blue and everyone can know that it's actually you.
If you click sign in on the top right of the screen it will prompt you to either sign in or get open an account. Don't worry we won't know who you are, you are not signing up with me you are signing up with Google,and all your information is private unless you select to make it public, which I suggest you don't do, there is a lot to be said for anonymity, just look at me. LOL!!!
OK hope to see your name in Blue soon, as well as many others.
yes he is. we was so mad after the state final match. i thoght he was going to do a sommersault into the stands from the floor. the other topic on all dade stuff; i have to agree with everything pardo has said. when the herald tries to share the wealth they cheat other kids from receiving what they have earned. what is melissa arteaga thinking. i for one believe she should not be at yung min cho's all you can eat buffet while voting on her all dade wrestlers, all that starch affects your thinking. i remember when her brother wrestled, that suckedforeveryonelast night 5 wrestles remained undefeated, 3 freshman won regional titles, southdade won their 26 straight title and mick arteaga had a heartbreaking loss in the second round of wrestlebacks, he season is over, he has a record of 24-14, he is only a sophomore so he will be returning. love you mick.
thank you spiderman i'll do it.
Spiderman,
You no longer have the veil of anonimity to cloak yourself with. Superman outed you a couple of months back. You may keep the guise of Spiderman but we all know the truth of who you are.
Moonie,
Yes I forgot I am Ron Osorio, but with Split personalities.
Though Mahler and Coney have been dormant for some time; mostly these days I am Pardo, KW, or Osorio, but Mostly Osorio.
Spiderman,
How is your bladder problem? Have you pi$$ed on anyone latley. Since the season is over who do you pi$$ on now? Hey other spiderman, how about another essay this time with the letter 'P' as an homage to Spiderman. LOL.
Moonie,
I don't have a bladder problem and I have not pissed on anyone lately or ever for that matter. However, if I did have a bladder problem and had pissed on someone, I would say "I don't have a bladder problem and I have not pissed on anyone lately or ever for that matter."
joker and friends you assume way to much about me or my coach Osorio so shut your mouth your making yourself look bad if osorio recruited like you say he does his line up would look a lot better dont you think?
103-harris
112-leonardo
119-Thomas(hialeah 103 state contender that beat the 119 state champ of this year with ease)
125-robert(golema would have been much better with osorio an level of competition in american)
130-Nates(hialeah with osorio for a full year more i would tech myself if i wrestled myself now)
135-Leonardo(would have gained a lot from the extra partners)
140-Espinosa(hialeah/matter acad region champ would have been alot better with osorio an teams mates to improve with)
145-Clark
152-Ogando(hialeah/matter acad would have gotten much better do to the upper weight studs like garcia an perez to wrestle everyday)
160-Garcia
171-Perez
189-( dont know who was here)
215-Castilo
275-chirino
the funny thing is all these are his wrestlers that OSORIO trained so these are his kids they dont belong to a school we should be able to follow OUR coach but because of people like you we cant so if you think about it its not recruiting just relocating but its recruiting to you so lets say it is ok
If osorio did recruit like you said his line-up would look like that with coaching, support of the school, and the HIGH level of competition in that room how would american have done in the state as a team.
to anwser your question about Nates (me) moving osorio was leaving so scotty my buddy said hey come to riverdale so hey i went to riverdale then i had to leave because of my mother not making money in real estate making me move back so because i went to another school i was no longer following my coach i had a choice try an go to American with osorio, to South Dade (yes south dade i have a house under rent in homestead) Braddock (yes i have an apartment there for rent as well and my grandfather down the street from the chandlers),Columbus, or home sweet home Hialeah so i talk to osorio one day an ask hey can i come to american he said NO!! people will accuse me of recruiting an try to go after you even though they have nothing because you went to another school i said ok an moved on i speak to Victor can i go to South Dade he says NO!!! they will accuse me of recruiting and i have my lineup set already (this was befor omi got injured so south dade was set)
then i thought Braddock an i said hell no i hate kendall, then Columbus but i dont fit in an all boys catholic school full of stuck up rich kids (not the wrestling team others that i know from columbus) so i went to Hialeah because my girlfriend and it was my last choice OSORIO did not even try the slightest bit to get me an VICTOR neither but in the end they get accused of it anyway i wish i would have known this i would have gone to American from the start but if you ask Osorio if you knew about this befor would you get all your wrestlers to come he would say no because he doesnt need us we need him he can get any random kid to do great all the proof is there same goes for Victor these 2 coaches dont need kids the kids need them
Oh, Michael, should we cry now or later. Good job winning states. Now go on your merry way.
i did it. thank you spiderman and moon knight.
hey dumb as* Varona was not kicked out as a coach but resigned because of the bogus school/grade thing. also "RUMOR" has it the Varona is transfering his kid to South Dade!
hey dumb as* Varona was not kicked out as a coach but resigned because of the bogus school/grade thing. also "RUMOR" has it the Varona is transfering his kid to South Dade!
Varona was given the opportunity to resign and later terminated. I personally saw the memo. It can probably still be found by searching the MDCPS School Board Minutes from last year.
actually if you find the board meeting he is on TV telling the board that he screwed up and wont fight it
119-Thomas(hialeah 103 state contender that beat the 119 state champ of this year with ease)
+Idiiot....Explain to me again, when this was supposed to happen? When did "Thomas (hilieah) ever beat Baldwin? Also I am guessing from the posts on here that it;s OK to "transfer" to a better program if the "coach" is perceived to be "better" if it happens in Broward/Dade. But if it happens anywhere ales, its Recruiting
He beat Baldwin last year at Chaminad tournament. They wrestled 103.
Has anyone ever noticed Coach Osorio giving Garcia hard punches to the head during tournaments? Am I the only one? If Osorio really wanted Garcia, Nates and all these other guys, then he would've stayed at Hialeah.
I think Osorio calls it tough love.
Oooohhhhh. So he beat him last year in a close match and you call it "with ease." Here's a couple of questions for you: What does last year have to do with this? and What happened with the two of them this year? One a state champ, one a chump as far as i can see. Also, as someone erroneously posted earlier, it's illegal for either party to follow the other. Sonny Hester says so and he's the guy who does the investigations.
anonymous,
Sonny Hester may say it is illegal, but it is not, YET. At the Athletic Director's meeting in Gainsville this July he mentioned how they want to change the wording of the rule. Right now the rule is still "follow the coach", meaning if the coach goes first, then it is recruiting. It seems many coaches have gotten creative and followed their athletes. This has not been addressed. The FHSAA is trying to change it, but I have not heard anything yet. I would expect that this summer the change will be finalized. What I don't get is they also say each athlete is a "free agent" during the summer. Where ever he starts year is where he is eligible to play, assuming he didn't play travel ball, practice illegally or proof of recruiting is shown.
I have heard from several coaches, that Sonny Hester made the comment "follow the coach" and "follow the athlete" are the same and both illegal. The problem is, that is not the case yet.
KW,
Very well stated, we appreciate your insiders perspective.
Michael Nates,
You are still very young and maybe not understand the sports hierarchy here in Dade. Here the old adage and proverb holds true. Perception is reality. It does not matter if Osorio or Balmaceda recruit kids or not. The perception of kids transferring to their school will undoubtedly raise eyebrows and allow for people to speak on what they do not know. I was a defender of these people until I was convinced that there must have been some kind of collusion behind the scenes. Once again there is no proof and these coaches might very well not be at fault of any crime but the perception is there and with that comes the reality of the accusations. I doubt you will ever hear of any school that is perceived as ‘lacking’ be accused of recruiting. My guess is that has more to do with the program than anything else, while on the other hand when a rich program gets riches then allegations and accusations will always resound within the community even if there was nothing illegal done. You would be wise to allow these people to speak their minds and allow their perception to blind them of the reality. My belief is if there was some sneaky behind the scenes deals made then there would be a ‘smoking gun’ or a ‘bloody glove’ to use as proof. Unfortunately there is no such proof and therefore we will just type away accusing these schools and coaches for crimes that they might honestly and truly be innocent of.
By the way, great job winning the State Title.
Coach KW:
Normally I would never question your Jedi-knowledge, but in this case you are definately wrong. Check some of the back issues of the FHSAA report from early this fall where kids were found to be ineligible, at least one basketball coach fined and suspended and a couple of schools fined for coaches following athletes. And yes, Sonny has made the statement at several of his stops this year. It may not be "in the rules" but he's definately enforcing it along with other rules like not being able to have camps during the school year but outside the season. Except of course when it happens at his former school.
Coach KW & Anonymous,
I believe our new Anonymous is right KW but for the fact that the coaches that were fined and fired had their whole teams transfer to their new school (private) before their "expected" arrival. I think that would be such a big deal that even though it is not specifically stipulated in the rules, it would no doubt cause people in power to take notice.
Montero came to Columbus before States to practice because he had no one to train with and his coaches took him to Columbus. Montero is friends with wrestlers at Columbus and they hangout outside of the wrestling season....so you can't say that Columbus kids or coaches are recruiting. Tell me what kid would not want to go to the same school as their friends.
Joey Morales, Noffo and others from Southridge came to Columbus during the off season last year to wrestle and workout because Husk cares about wrestling in general not just for his school.
Noffo wants to be surrounded by competition that will make him better and he too hangs out with Columbus wrestlers during the off season.
Montero, Noffo and any other’s parents and coaches of any sports should realize that at Columbus they will receive a better education and training.
I would never scarify my child’s education over a better wrestling program and I can’t image a parent that would.
So stop complaining and do something to improve your child’s education and sports program. There education is primary not wrestling.
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Oops I think I may have gone political there. Open the flood gates Moses it’s about to get wet in here.
Nice way to sugar coat things. Rumor has it that some of the kids on the Columbus team can not even read. I wonder why. Look at where they are coming from. If you put all of those guys that follwed Husk to Columbus together and asked them to spell bunt, it would look something like this, BON.
Yes and Braddock cannot get the twins to graduate.
You cannot compare any public schools education to Columbus.
School grades
Braddock C
Coral Gables C
Southridge F
Southdade F
Here's something else where did Coach Husk send his son to school when he was coaching at Southridge??????
Columbus
I'd be willing to bet that half of the wrestlers are part of the Phase 2 crew. And that education is on par with what they would get in most public schools in the county, except for that half a year of religion.
Let’s see
Noffo Phase 3
Nodar Phase 3
Davis Phase 4
Konaneck Phase 4
Rio Phase 3
Borges Phase 3
Abadean Phase 3
If you really think you will get the same education at Columbus as any other public school keep thinking that.
"119-Thomas(hialeah 103 state contender that beat the 119 state champ of this year with ease)"
I was at the Chaminade tournament and saw that match. Thomas won 8-6 against an 8th grader. Wow! Congrats you big stud. Now as for the "with ease" comment: 1 - 8-6 I wouldn't call with ease and 2 - Baldwin was on top trying to turn the stalling Thomas when the buzzer sounded. The only two people who thought he won "with ease" in the whole gym were you and your crack dealer - cuz u must have been high to come up with that line. Where, exactly was Thomas this year again? Sitting in the stands watching state?
Here's something else where did Coach Husk send his son to school when he was coaching at Southridge??????
Only because he didn't wrestle
I'm not sure on the year, but I think Husk's kid came to Columbus around 1983. At that time, Columbus had been to the State Championship Football game 2 out of 3 years 1980 and 1982. At that point anyone who was anything in football was trying to go to Columbus. I remember looking at the old kids in college when I was in school Shula, Griese, Buonocoti, Jimmy Johnson's kid, Howard Schnellenberger's kid. I've heard stories of high school football games with Don Shula and Howard Schnellenberger in the stands, talk about pressure for a high school coach a Super Bowl winning coach and a National Championship winning coach.
I've taught at Columbus and South Dade, about as different as can be. As a graduate of Columbus I was dissappointed in how many students I taught, whose only goal was to go to Santa Fe or Orange County CC. When I was there there was an extremely high number of seniors who were going to Miami Dade, Santa Fe, or Orange County Community College. Way more than should be coming out of a College Prep school. Now with the honors class that I taught I had some great kids that went on to great schools, I even had a former wrestler go to West Point. However the education is not where it once was. The opportunities are there to be challenged, learn a lot, and get the benefit of that Columbus name when you are going off to college.
Well said KW. Everyone thinks that because you go to Columbus that you will become this super smart person. You can if you apply yourself, but how many of these wrestlers do you think are. They are going there to wrestle because they have been contacted at one point or another and in one way or another. The funny thing is that these guys think we are stupid enough to believe all the crap they try to give us. Like the joker said, no one wakes up and decides for themselves that they want to wrestle for Columbus and recieve a great education. They recruit, it is unacceptable and these Columbus coaches and the men around them should go f__ck themselves. Build your team from within the school then come on here and talk all the shit you want.
Columbus is working very hard to be the best. Leave us alone and mind your own business.
Ernie
yea working very hard trying to convince kids to go to their school.
Columbus is the best, Husk is the best, Ernie is the best, McCoy is the best. Rio is the best, Gulesian is the best, Djarp is the best. Haters, it's because of us that our team is full of bad asses.
Husk's son played football and also wrestled.
So many people love to talk about stuff they really don't know anything about.
Columbus has the highest rate of kids attending college.
Don't get mad at Columbus because they didn't accept you or you could not pass the entrance exam.
Be happy for the kids that are at a great school and not stuck in public school. I wish all public schools had good academics. It’s all about the kids education and not how well we train them for battle in the ring like their dogs. The truth is parents have to care and some don't or put the effort needed to have their children exceed.
Putting wooden block shapes into their appropriate hole is not a true exam.
All the kids took the entrance exam.
Again more people taking out of their A$$.
Don't know what you talking about just like hear themselves.
This year Columbus turn down incoming students tells you a lot about our schools.
Stop focusing on the negative and look at the positive. Be happy for the kids. Everybody has their own agenda.
Great wrestling competition in all Dade schools will result in better wrestlers in our county.
Anonymous,
I think it is redundant to state that a college prep school has more students attending college than does your local high school. Come to think of it it's a piece of $hit statistic that means very little. If you look at your high achievers and innovators the majority of them come from Public schools because they are more driven and hungrier than your silver spoon fed private school kids. Private school kids go to college to get buisness degrees so they can be justified in taking over Daddy's buisness. Jeff Bezos the inventor of Amazon.com and a Billionaire went to Miami Palmetto Senior not Columbus. Steve Jobs, Mark Cuban, Sergey Brin, and many other Billonaires attended Public schools not private. I bet if you took a poll of all Billionaires, a great majority would come from public schools not private.
My son and others are far from silver spooners.
I don't know why there are some many people that are jealous of kids because their parents have money. Most cases their parents or grandparents scarify blood and sweat to get where they are today.
Don’t hate because you don’t have……get it.
That’s great for those achievers….look at the percentiles of public school students that don’t achieve.
I would like to see all of our public schools excel.
I think KW and Spidey are the same person.
Wow…..pretty sick to comment on your own blogs.
Can we get a psychological exam? How many personalities does he have??? Loonyyyyyyy!!!!!
Anonymous,
That wan and obviously still is a very popular guess as to my identity.
It appears you guys think a great deal of these coaches like KW, Pardo, Mahler, and even Osorio.
All have been linked to being me, but I am none of them.
I guess in the case of KW I see the intelligence factor as quite pertinent in your investigation.
However, I assure you I am not the Beautiful minded KW.
Of course if I were KW I would say to you,
"I guess in the case of KW I see the intelligence factor as quite pertinent in your investigation, however, I assure you I am not the Beautiful minded KW"
There I go flattering myself again.
Spidey I mean KW.
You’re a couple sandwiches short of a full picnic.
Oh…it’s lunch time.
First anonymous,
Listen to what you just said.
"Most cases their parents or grandparents sacrifice blood and sweat to get where they are today."
Yes they absolutely did, and most of them were public school educated, and many never finished their education at all and still found a way to prosper.
Now God forbid they make their children earn their own way in the world...
Naw lets give it all to them on a silver platter so they can learn to devalue most things, appreciate very little, and demean those that have less.
Certainly not every student at Columbus fits this description, but I bet it is more that you would be willing to acknowledge I assure you.
I don't have a problem at all with you touting the achievements of the Private schools, not just Columbus, but any and all private schools, but to tarnish or question the value of a public education in relation to a private one is misinformed at best.
Many kids go to Columbus seeking a more structured educational system accompanied by the morals and practices of religion, and there is nothing wrong with that. But to say that an athlete seeks out Columbus because of the educational benefits is not only hypocritical, but it insults the intelligence of the athletic community at large.
A Student with desire to learn and the will and determination to do so will learn just as well if not better at a public school as they would at any private school.
You said,
“That’s great for those achievers….look at the percentiles of public school students that don’t achieve.”
How about I throw that one back in your face as well?
No you can’t count all the public school students because the many that are underprivileged would skew the number to justify what you are saying. To make it a fair comparison lets use the students that attend public schools that have a similar socio economic status as that of a student that could afford to go to Columbus. I would argue that those students perform at a higher rate than do your students at Columbus. I don’t have the stats to prove it, but just look at Palmetto and Killian for Example, the only 100% public (non magnet) schools which have a higher grade than C on their FCAT scores. Why do you think that is? That’s right, it’s purely socio economic, just like it is at Columbus.
BTW, I did not see Columbus anywhere on the top 10 schools in America like MAST academy, a public school, or in the top 20 like Coral Reef, a public school.
Hey rather that appear ever more silly drop it already, Matt Noffo did not transfer to Columbus seeking a better education. Coral Reef Blows Columbus away, he went there because his daddy thinks he has a better opportunity to be a better wrestler at Columbus. That is an experiment to which the answer will be revealed next February. Let it be know that I have my doubts.
Anonymous,
Maybe you'd like to explain exactly how many sandwiches one is required to have before one can justifiably claim to indeed meet the prerequisites for a "Full Picnic?"
Spidey I mean KW...
Spidey I mean Osorio...
Spidey I mean Pardo...
Spidey I mean...
AAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!
Every time you think you know who I am you get further away from catching me.
I should have called myself Sandman, because just like sand, the more you squeez me the more I slip through your fingers.
Let’s see how many depends on how many people are there…thought that’s obvious.
Columbus is not listed with the public schools just like any other private school.
Okay…Noffo, CJ told him to go to Columbus. Why so that he can improve. So why not Southdade or Southridge because they have poor academics.
Anonymous,
I don't believe for one second that CJ asked Noffo to leave.
That is a God Damned lie! And since you are religiously affiliated you should understand the power behind that statement.
What is wrong with Palmetto? His mother is the Principal there, is her school not good enough?
Does she the Principal at Palmetto doubt the validity of the education provided under her guidance?
The wrestling team seems to do damn well year in and year out as well; does she lack confidence in her Head wrestling coach as well?
See, talking out of your ass proves that what you say is crap.
Now that I think of it, the Son of a Principal of one of the finest institutions of public learning in Dade County does not believe Palmetto could provide an adequate education for her son...
HUmmm...
Yummy! Positively scandalous if you ask me; were I Rudy Crew I might re-assign her for the lack of self confidence in her ability to provide her son an adequate education. I mean if her son can't get a good education there, who can?
Going to Columbus is a slap to her own face.
Let's see your facts are off once again....she is the principal of Palmetto Middle.
CJ gave his blessing…..god with God.
Spider,
Ouch!!! I think that was a puch to the groin. You need to keep your gloves up son before you get a point deducted for illegal use of information.
Anonymous,
Boy listen here, shut up before you get that poor kids family in trouble. Just shut up and enjoy your new recruit and stop arguing. You have done such a bang up job of talking sh!t that now you have Rudy Crew's name mentioned here. You better hope he does not frequent this site or anyone tells him of this site. The consequences may be more than what you can bare.
Anonymous,
I misspoke calling her the principal at Palmetto senior, but it makes little difference because her school Palmetto Middle is still the direct feeder to Palmetto senior, so there is still culpability. She obviously does not think much of Dade County public schools even though she is a prominent fixture at one of them.
Moon,
Is this another personality of Spidey coming out…how many are there?
The Noffo’s are not going to get in trouble…even you try.
I’m listening and all I hear is crying.
It’s all good. I know the facts not the drama. Makes for good smut.
Is that why Mrs. Noffo put him in Coral Reef?
I comment on the facts and not gossip or my delusional perception. More people should.
Spidey, what's "wrong" with Palmetto? Haven't you heard it's just a little "overcrowded" for starters...and he doesn't even live in that district. Get your facts straight as she isn't an admin. at that school. Also, how many wrestlers went to Lakeland this year....please. Oh yes, it has a great program ;-) and their own set of scandals. You must be thinking about how it was back in your day.
and down goes Spiderman, down goes Spiderman...
Anonymnous,
Yes I am Moonie, and also KW, Paladin, Joker, Devils advocate, Galactus and every anonymous poster on here.
I have more personalities than Cybil.
The only person other than myself on here is you.
Next Anonymous (or Ias I like to refer to him "Me")
Coral Reef is a Magnet school, it is understandable that she might send her son there to focus on a particular discipline, not to mention that it is still a Dade County Public school.
And now young Noffo is going to Columbus for their wrestling magnet.
You wanted facts and not gossip or delusional perceptions? Well there you have it.
3rd Anonymous (Another "Me")
Palmetto overcrowded. Yeah it is a little, but there are exceptions made all the time for children of teachers and administrators, it is one of the few perks of being an employess of the system. I assure you that if that is where she wanted him that is where he would be, so don't try to veil the truth with excuses that don't even apply.
4th Anonymous ("ME" Again)
Down where buddy? You must be kidding right. I kick ass and take names all day long, what on Earth are you talking about?
LOL!!!
Kw and Spiderman logged in at same time and KW is also logged into florida kids interesting. Back to my theory of many many years ago Hollywood Mahkler is the spiderman. After all who is the oldest.
Crack,
You ready to bring Stu back in the mix and out of Spidey retirement.
Cool! I'm sure he'd be thrilled to hear it.
Anyone left for Coney?
Pardo is dying off as well, anyone still in the Pardo camp.
KW was just resurected, much to his pleasure I am sure.
Osorio the latest Spiderman is fizzling, please don't let it end, I have word that he was very flattered by the accusation.
If you only knew...
This is exactly what you want, isn't Spidersorio. For everyone to play these little games and just forget that you are Osorio. Fat bald boy. Everyone knows Spiderman is Osorio.
Superman
No one stirred more in Spiderman then Superman when he revealed the truth. Spiderman defended himself to the end even posting pictures of Superman and all. He sure did put a lot of energy into trying to convince the public that he was not Osorio. Never did it with anyone else. Now he is going to come on here and write that stupid little phrase of his where it says that he is not Osorio. Warning to all, do not trust this character, he is Osorio. If you do not believe me, ask Osorio himself.
Superman
Sup,
You're back or are you just a bad Sup imposter?
You are correct, I am Osorio. And he ummm... I mean I will be thrilled to hear that.
Superman,
You are linking me with such luminaries thinking them to be the well lipped lion therefore holding me liable to the lethal loathing litigations of less than lovable but lustful losers. You have broken the levee that limited the link of my limber self to other lethal long winded lingerie wearing heroes. I am the liege of this site preventing its lethargic demise of leprosy while still linking limmer people with luminous latently talented leaders. In lieu of your lustful limp writings seeking a liaison in some limited level, I will grant you leniency. Your lovable desire to be one of the limber lindy dancing lentic heroes on this site will be limited. You lazy leap linking this liege to other lantern leading heroes made while you layed languishing is latish at best. Your lapse in judgment during your laughable linking of the lentic heroes shows languor. A long larrup will ensue with strong lanyards that lend itself to a lashing.
Spidey knows a lot about the Dade school system….must be a member.
I had brother go to Palmetto and now he things he’s a gangster from the hood of Palmetto Bay……what a joke. I would not send KW there he made come out even more confused.
The schools is overcrowded and there wrestling program is not that great what they send one kid to states?
Lets take a poll on who Spidey really is.
Coach Osorio,
Hey coach Osorio are you Spiderman?
Why yes I am Spiderman thank you for asking.
So how long have you been Spiderman?
Long enough to know everything Spiderman knows of course.
Do I really have a bladder problem? Well yes you do Spiderman, in fact you piss on your self quite frequently, but you prefer to piss on others.
Hey Spidey are you sure I am you? Yeah I'm positive, who else could you be Osorio?
Hey Osorio do you get mad when they accuse you of being KW? No because I know the truth, I am Spiderman and I am smarter than KW even though he does have a beautiful mind.
What about when they accuse you of being Pardo, does that bother you? No because I know I am Osorio and I am tougher than Pardo and I don't color my hair, if I had any.
Does it bother you when people call you Mahler? Yes that one does bother me because I am not as pretty as Mahler and I so wish that I was.
What about when they call you Osorio, does that bother you? No I am Osorio, I piss on anyone that says I am not. I have the finest program in Dade County Except for South Dade which is way too far to even be a consideration for anyone looking for a better place to have your talent developed by a top notch coaching staff.
Sincerely,
KW
Spiderman,
That covers the L's
Anonymous,
Your poll is up, I hope you like it.
I included everyone I could remember that has been accused of being me in chronological order.
Enjoy!
Now lets not forget the possibility that spidey has two idenities The peter parker shy and quiet KW and the super hero alter ego Hollywood Stu. So I change my vote along with my pipe. It takes two to make one Spidey.
Dade vs Broward friday night !! Any good match ups and move in weights to create some good matches. Let me know. Spidey. Is it worth the hour drive to see this match? Does any one have any connections for crack in Broward? Sorry hard habit to break.psst will spidey be there both of u ?
KW's many personalities may skew the votes.
All of you who think Spidey is Mahler are either sharing his pot, smoking his crack or drinking some serious cool-aid! Mahler isn't smart enought to keep himself out of trouble wherever he goes, let alone put a semi-intelligent and gramatically correct sentence together. I think he's going for some sort of record for having a record in the most states of anyone in the coaching ranks. Of course I could be wrong. Nah, that would make me his attorney!
All of you who think Spidey is Mahler are either sharing his pot, smoking his crack or drinking some serious cool-aid! Mahler isn't smart enought to keep himself out of trouble wherever he goes, let alone put a semi-intelligent and gramatically correct sentence together. I think he's going for some sort of record for having a record in the most states of anyone in the coaching ranks. Of course I could be wrong. Nah, that would make me his attorney!
It's obvisouly KW. It's obviously Kdub. It's obviousy Osorio uh I mean K-E-V-I-N W-H-E-L-A-N!!!!
Joker your a fucking clown and you better hide behind you name. Referring to your Melissa Arteaga post, she is my sister. You need to chill with what you say you’re obviously going to hide behind your fucking name. If you know anything about All Dade which you were probably not good enough to make or your son wasn’t, in wrestling it is chosen by how you did in Regionals not by votes or what writers think like in other sports. As for writing on me she couldn’t, she wasn’t allowed because it was biased to the paper I was only mentioned when I won and it took up only a sentence when she would mention other winners of that tournament. As for the Herald I haven’t seen wrestling covered as much or well as it was when she did the wrestling section. If you only knew how she had to fight just to get the little space she did for an article because we all know wrestling isn’t the most read on sport in the paper. What she did for the Dade County wrestling coverage was great and I only wish she still had the time to do it.
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